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Seeking quick cash in a tanking economy, would-be sellers of sperm, eggs, blood plasma and even human hair are filling waiting rooms and swamping agencies with inquiries.
Have you sold a bodily fluid to make ends meet? Would you? msnbc.com would like to know what you think.
Hell yes what is the going price of part of your liver. I have AB neg blood kind of rare. And I have a lot of bills. So yes in a heart beat
#2 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:13 AM ESTOnly in tough times when you can get something in return do people actually think about donating something that is useful or helpful to another person. It's definitely not a selfless act in this instance and I think it takes away that good feeling that you're helping someone.
I think people giving up their sperm/eggs right now in desperation aren't thinking as clearly about the long term effects of doing so and how that will affect their lives in 5-10 years or more. I wouldn't be surprised if it sparked lawsuits with people using the excuse that they were not thinking clearly and were desperate. I view selling my eggs to be equal to giving up my unborn child to adoption - not a decision to take lightly.
#3 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:22 AM ESTRebekah - - please understand that they way you feel about this is not really representive about the way that all people feel. I was an egg donor years ago; I didn't need the money, so desperation was hardly a factor; as a nurse who worked in an ob/gyne field, I instead saw the desperation and sadness of infertile couples. As the mom of three and oldest of four in my own family, I learned the value of sharing and putting others ahead of yourself. Donating my eggs (twice anonymously; twice to someone I knew) was and is still one of the most special things I have done in my life. Some people are just compelled to be helpful and kind, even to someone they don't know; others liken the experience to giving up a child, and those men/women don't make good donors, and shouldn't donate. There are lots of people who think that reproductive donations are a unique way of helping couples, but until the economy gets tight it's hard to put it on your radar and actually do it. I see nothing wrong with this. I have the priviledge of working with dozens of amazing young women who donate their eggs every year now - they all are doing it for the right reasons; they are helping someone else AND helping themselves.
You misunderstood my comment, I think it's great if people are donating to help people achieve something important in their lives. What I disagree with is people doing it for the money without giving consideration to the consequence.
I think it's great you have done this donation out of your heart, I think it takes character to do something like that.
Yeah, I'd do it. I'm a gay man, what do I need it for! Why not spread my superior genes around?
#4 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:43 AM ESTPlease just keep having your buddy swallow or let it go in the toilet.
Wade; Your comment says volumes. PLEASE do not donate! There are enough morons in this world.
I feel that in a short time we will come too regret this discusting decesion what have we come too anyone that would consider doing as suggested is degrading themselves. Just my opinion.
#5 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:44 AM ESTWow you must be great to feel the need to call people disgusting and that they are degrading themselves. Open your eyes and realize that many people rely on these donors, wigs for cancer patients, organs for people dying, sperm and eggs for people who can not have their own children. Imagine if their were none of these disgusting donors. Also for the people who are donating they might have just lost their jobs and have a family to support and are facing foreclosure etc. Let me tell you if I was in dire need I would consider this as an option to do something beneficial to society and pay bills. I have children and most people will do whatever they can to support them. So to sit on your high horse and calls those that are desperate for money disgusting and degrading themselves is wrong and narrowminded.
Please - try spell check. Your comment verges on being unreadable.
Hey! I ain't much, but I'm all I got! I do know some co-workers I'd like to buy a piece of though!
#6 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:46 AM ESTOn some level this is wrong, but I do understand desperation. My husband of 25 years died this year of kidney failure because we could not find a donor kidney. I just wish that we had known that body parts were for sale. We probably not have taken advantage of other people's sorrow. Just think about it. We are all in the same boat, Peace!!!
#7 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 11:00 AM ESTIt goes to show you what kind of low life we have living here. Money for anything!!!!
#8 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 11:13 AM ESTSalah; its your level of ignorance that we need to eradicate. Additionally, its none of your business. These are personal decisions. Maybe donating to improve the common gene pool will help produce a more tolerant and intelligent population. I can't believe that anyone chooses to air their ignorance - I'd think you'd be embarrassed to voice such drivel.
I've considered egg donation for years, when I was in college so I could pay tuition, now beacuse the economy is so bad. I completely respect anyone's belief that it is wrong...for them. But for me, i see nothing wrong with me, a mentally and physically healthy woman with great self respect and self-confidence, offering my eggs to a wonderful couple trying to have a child of their own. In my eyes, I'm not using my eggs right now, there's little risk for me in case I decide to have children in the future. This is my belief, and I would hope that others would understand and respect my decision that I would love to help a stable couple start a family. I have done my research and talked to family and friends about their ideas to get support and to deal with any issues before anything takes place. I hope that all those reading this can see and understand that it's not always about the money, though there are some who do it just for the money. If one of my family members approached me about this, I would consider it for them free of charge. I believe that anyone of sound judgement and mind, who has done their research,knows the risks, and genuinely want to help other are not horrible people. And there's also the point that when a woman decides to donate an egg there is a HUGE process involving psyciatric and medical evaluations and much more.
I think the big thing missing from here is RESPECT for other's ideas!
#9 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 11:37 AM ESTWell said.
Dee dee - I was just in a third world socialist country:
Ration books - cheap but inferior products (assuming they're available at all)
Homes - crowded and crumbling
Medicine - shortgages (actually, I was in a group that donated about 300 lbs. of OTC supplies to a charity)
No freedom of speech
Citizen dependence often the result of remittances from family in Western countries or obtaining a job from a finite # of positions where tips may be earned from foreign travelers.
If they're happier, I believe it's due to stronger social bonds with family and others; survival depends on it. It's a hand-to-mouth existence. Capitalism has its flaws, but socialism doesn't work either.
#10 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:01 PM ESTYou're right, of course. Capitalism is absolutely a terrible way to conduct business, but it's light years ahead of anything else out there.
Whoever suggested socialism as a viable alternative hasn't been paying attention for the past century.
Does capitalism work? Look at China. Only since it began embracing capitalism has the largest communist country in the world had any economic growth.
I'm not sure that I would I have always donated platelets to the blood bank for years. But I am past the age to donate my eggs and I went through cancer treatment last year for breast cancer so I probably would be disqualified. I tried to get back into donating platelets with the blood center and I was deferred because my white blood cells had built up an immunity. I was told that I could still donate red blood cells so I don't know if my plasma would be any good. But if I was a match for someone for bone marrow or a kidney I would give one.
I don't have a problem with someone donating eggs or sperms to help an infertile couple concieve but I do believe the industry needs to be properly regulated to ensure that nothing unethical goes on.
#11 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:01 PM ESTEveryone has their own belief. Personally, I would if I could. If I could grow hair fast enough, they could have it weekly. Pay me first of course. LOL ;-)
#12 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:13 PM ESTThis afternoon, I will be making my fifth donation to my local plasma center. I am fifty-eight years old, and I would love to be able to say that my reason for this new thing that I do is completely altruistic; its not. Its not even close. I am selling, not donating, and I have never tried to fool myself nor anyone else into believing otherwise. In my financial and emotional desperation, the idea that my plasma-letting is actually helping someone besides me and my family has never occurred to me. And I am certain that those who I see on a regular basis donating plasma twice a week aren't thinking about how wonderful it is to give when they are receiving their cash payouts. If they are like me, they are thinking about the payment arrangements they have made with their phone service provider or the utilities company whose customer service folks have promised not to turn off their electricity provided those payment arrangements are met or how many doses of maintenance medication that money will provide for the next couple of days. For many regular folks (whatever that means) this is our new normal for the foreseeable future.
#13 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:28 PM ESTvicki, your honesty is refreshing!
I think people should be free to make decisions about their own bodies. It's the only thing that any of us really owns anyway.
While I respect a woman's decision to give up her eggs if she wants to, I do just want to advise that you should do some research before you make that decision based on monetary compensation only. Gathering eggs can be very time-consuming and painful (there may be other emotional side effects too). I am not against it, ladies just need to know the facts first.
#14 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:31 PM ESTi live in australia,not long ago a female high school teacher seduced a ,ale pupil of hers and became pregant. after having the baby she proceeded to claim that the father was culperable to the upbringing of the child.....indicating there is always a charge when it comes to women
#15 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:31 PM ESTNo! we do not allow people who are related to marry for a reason. It has nothing to do with ethics, religion etc. The reason is that when closely related people create a new life the chances of unwanted family traits showing up are more than doubled. The problem with people donating sperm and eggs at will and not being able to track it could possibly cause many people to fall in love with a relative maybe even a sibling. Are we ready to be responsible for taht?
#16 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:38 PM ESTSelling your hair is one thing, even if it isn't out of a charitable purpose. Sperm and blood are typically donated, but I don't know the details of options for compensation. I just hope that the increase of "donations" doesn't affect the quality of screening these applicants! But people, this could get uglier than we would ever imagine. There is no doubt that there are already psychos out there who excise other people's organ(s) and sell them on the black market. An underground market could likely be a more profitable way to go about "giving parts of your body" for money and that would be disastrous! We already know about human trafficking in and around the globe, but the networks are highly secretive and shadowy. We know children and adults are abducted via these networks and God only knows the fate of the ones that are never found. What's next, parents SELLING their kids, their kid's organs? Just a few weeks ago, a parent dropped off 8 kids at a hospital within a state that had no stated age limitation on this acceptable option. What if that parent had easier access to a burgeoning underground trafficking operation and had taken that route? In desperate times, people become desperate, frantic and, eventually, ruthless in terms of what they are willing to do for self preservation. The culture of this country has degraded to "every human for himself." The largest population demographic here has never seen or experienced anything close to the type of issues we are facing. I think we can expect to see increases in robberies, murders, suicides, prostitution, drug dealing and other nefarious activities too ugly to mention. All of that said, if I had enough hair to sell, I would certainly consider that option if necessary. But, alas, I have but a tuft of turf left atop. I'll leave you with than one slightly humorous thought, and wish you all peace in these turbulent times.
#17 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:47 PM ESTok - the article wouldn't load for me for some reason - did it tell us where we could go to do this? - i have some eggs sitting around in my ovaries that i am not going to be using - and i could sure use the cash
#18 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 1:35 PM ESTI would donate my eggs in a New York minute however the age limit is outrageous! I am 34 years old and there is nothing wrong with my eggs. Look at Halle Berry, Selma Hayek, Jennifer Lopez and Nicole Kidman. Do you people see anything wrong with their babies? NO! What they need to worry about is all of these men donating buckets of their sperm. I have a feeling that the movie Deliverence will become a true story soon. Sister's will be marrying brothers, brothers will be marrying their cousins, brothers will be marrying their brothers. And they are worried about my 34 year old egg! Get a life people!!!
#19 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 1:36 PM ESTLets get real. If your pappa is a rolling stone, you are more likely to wind up dating a brother or sister because of the illigitimate children in the same community. I know of two couples that found out that they were family the hard may. Take that in consideration when you consider the odds of hooking up with a donor relative are worst then winning the powerball. Think before you speak people.
I would donate my eggs in a New York minute however the age limit is outrageous! I am 34 years old and there is nothing wrong with my eggs. Look at Halle Berry, Selma Hayek, Jennifer Lopez and Nicole Kidman. Do you people see anything wrong with their babies? NO! What they need to worry about is all of these men donating buckets of their sperm. I have a feeling that the movie Deliverence will become a true story soon. Sister's will be marrying brothers, brothers will be marrying their cousins, brothers will be marrying their brothers. And they are worried about my 34 year old egg! Get a life people!!!
#20 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 1:37 PM ESTi would really like to know where i can donate sperm...
i am recently divorced and i could really use the extra cash...
i have not had sex since my wife left me in july and i have a tremendous sex drive...
the urge is always there for me so i know i could donate as much as they need...
please feel free to email me with any info on a bank in CT that could use my services...
thank you!!!
#21 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 1:38 PM ESTI would NOT do these things. Period.
#22 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 1:44 PM ESTA sick, sad, 2008 version of O'Henry's classic short story "Gift of the Magi" -- and just in time for Xmas, no less.
#23 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 1:45 PM ESTThis is so sad! Thank you George W. Bush, company, and Republicans for the last 8 years of utter reverse Robin Hood actions that have led to people becoming so desperate that they are selling their blood for money to make ends meet. I swear, if it were up to me, the millions of people stupid enough to vote for that @$$hole not once, but twice would have to pay 3 times the taxes and everybody else in their tax bracket. It would only be fair!
#24 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 1:46 PM ESTOh please Michael,are you serious? Quit blaming the President for everything. People have been desperate for money for thousands of years. President Bush has only been in office for 7 years,so get off your liberal high horse. Your stupidity is laughable.
Wow... It took a whole 24 posts before another of societies ills was blamed on the President.
Uncomplicatedlife; This is probably the first President in U.S. history who really wasn't one. Maybe (not) electing him and Cheney was what this country needed to affect a wake up call. Bush's (non) election (x2) just shows how complacent Americans became. His administration used this complacency to accomplish their agendas of poor management, the wrecking of our international reputation and kowtowing to corporate America on a scale never before seen. Bush and Cheney will be remembered as the poster children for the way to completely mismanage their respective offices. Bald face lies perpetrated on the U.S. and its allies. Destruction of whatever standing we had left with the international community. Implementing war time policies despite popular resistance by the American people as well as much of the world! The President ignored overwhelming advice by almost all of our allies as well as the largest protests ever seen in many countries. In some cases more than 250,000 people attended individual rallies opposing the invasion of Iraq. And there were hundreds of anti war rallies. Now we're involved in another war we can't win and had no business to be in and, again, American lives are being lost and billions of dollars being squandered all because of a dishonest and incredibly arrogant administration. And let's not ignore the real reason we went in --- OIL. So, yeah, the poor, poor President is suffering because of his insufferable policies and the advice of a vice president who, history will show, was probably the most corrupt man to ever to hold that office. So stop whining for President (not) Bush and recognize the terrible error this country committed by putting this duo in office. TWICE!!!!
Ken what would you have suggested the president should have done to avoid this downturn in the economy? Before blaming everything on 1 president remember that our policies are made up from 43 presidents and all of it comes into play today. Also it is not the presidents responsibilty to make people pay their mortgages/bills. If anything under the Clinton administration is where we saw the false housing boom and where the policies were changed that would effect the housing market today. We were attacked under Clinton numerous times by terrorists and clearly not enough was done to avoid 9/11. We have not had an attack from any extremist groups for the longest amount of time in the last 20+ years. I think if you looked more thoroughly into the war you would see that us being there will do more good than anything else. We are trying to set up stable gov.s so that these extremist groups will no longer have a place in Iraq or Afghanistan. We have taken out most of their leaders and have split up many extremist groups. I am tired of hearing the nations woes blamed on the president. Our congress has a lot of responsibilty here as well. Our economy will always have times of growth and will also have times of recession. 70's,80's, 00's. What seems to be the difference this time is that most people hardly have any equity in their homes, have more expensive cars, have credit cards, etc. The point is that there is a bigger picture to look at and just blaming the president does not solve anything. Although policies come into play it is a small part of the problem.
The first rule of life is, never be worth more dead than alive. This is a slippery slope to the body parts market, then the black market will send out the hunting parties. I'm ex-navy and this is already the case in the third world.
#25 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 2:37 PM ESTI wouldn't mind a black cock!
#26 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 3:12 PM ESTSpray Paint
lol
He'll probably paint his mouth!
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A 55-year-old man comes to the National Health Service in Great Britain with chronic kidney failure. If he cannot afford private care, he is told to go home and put his affairs in order.
I am not sure people plumping for universal or socialized health care understand that services under such a system by necessity or rationed in such a manner. Under such a system, $300,000+ medical care for premature and at-risk babies is likewise out of the question. The choices are made by the numbers.
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"Lost Yankee".
Thank you for your time.
I live in suburbs of Chicago and went to the ER this past Friday, I have never had to go to the ER for anything, I was up for a rude awakening, I am an unemployed, educated, US citizen and had to use the public hospital "Cook County" an hour away from me, I went at 9pm thinking it would be a 2 hour wait, I hadn't eaten anything, I was not seen until 4:15 am in the morning, I met a lady who had been there since 4pm Friday afternoon and a gentlemen who had been there since 11am Friday morning they both were waited on around 3am right before me, the disturbing thing was that the area is considered to be mostly African American however, the majority of the people there were Hispanics. Hope I never have to go there again the wait was to long.
ARE YOU TOTALLY INSANE OR WHAT?
I have set for 12 hours, and watched a man nearly bleed to death and there was NOT a DR., or a nurse to be seen!
Heart attck victims brought in by ambulance, set in hallways.....for hours on end.
THIS THREAD WAS A JOKE RIGHT?
OR, DID YOU DO THIS INTENTIONALLY, BECAUSE YOU ENJOY TO READ ABOUT ALL THE PAIN AND SUFFERING AND A MEDICAL SYSTEM THAT IS TOO BUSY SCREWING, WACH OTHER IN THE LOUNGE ROOMS, TO GIVE A DAMN?
Give us a break, and go write something that WON'T piss people off!
I'm not certain what planet Ms. Weaver did her research on but the average wait time in Greater Boston Hospital ER is about 7-8 hours.
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